jenny mccoy pastry chef
By Jenny McCoy—Chef Instructor, School of Pastry & Baking Arts

Hello, my name is Jenny. I am a former executive pastry chef turned pastry chef instructor. Some might say I’m still in recovery.

I began my career in Chicago, working my way up through the kitchens of Gordon’s, Blackbird and Charlie Trotter’s—true icons in the city’s culinary history. My time in these restaurants—like many culinary school graduates—was my first real introduction to the “yes, chef” culture of kitchens.

The “yes, chef” mentality stems from chefs who worked their way up in grueling environments, once called kitchen brigades. These environments were built for efficiency and excellence: a clear hierarchy, where everyone knew their place. The culture of these kitchens tended towards a sort of masochistic martyrdom where the longer you worked, the better chef you were. Chefs at the best restaurants were expected to put work before everything in their personal lives—including sickness and even sanity—to maintain the restaurant’s prestige.

Now it may sound tough to come of age in this kitchen culture, but it wasn’t so bad. I would liken the “yes, chef” culture to a full-immersion language program: it’s only when communication is a question of survival that we become fluent. Being the new kid at a restaurant full of experienced cooks forced me to be a quick study, and within a couple of years’ time, I became a pretty good cook myself. I was motivated to move up from the bottom of the totem pole, and a large part of my success was learning to live the “yes, chef” ethos.professional kitchen chef brigadeHow does this culture play out minute to minute? In short, “yes, chef” is the reply for every command you are given in a kitchen. It doesn’t matter how you think things need to be done. If you had a question, the time to ask was before your shift, because now there’s a lady at table seven who is waiting on a perfectly medium rare steak. In truth, for the complex choreography of a restaurant kitchen to operate without a hitch, you need a dictator. Chef means chief in French, and in the kitchen, the chef is the boss—period.

A typical conversation in the kitchen:

Chef: “You should use your serrated knife to chop bars of chocolate.”
You: “Yes, chef.” (Translation: “Thanks for the helpful tip.”)

Chef: “Separate 200 eggs and make sure you don’t get any yolk in the whites.”
You: “Yes, chef.” (Translation: “I’ve made this before, I know not to get the yolk in the whites.”)

Chef: “Why did you add the butter to the dough now? I told you to add it last.”
You: “Yes, chef.” (Translation: “Yesterday you told me to add the butter first, so now I’m totally confused.”)

Chef: “Stop feeding the sourdough starter. I did it already.”
You: “Yes, chef.” (Translation: “Actually chef, you started to feed it then got a call and walked away. So I thought I’d feed it because you forgot.”)

That is…until recently. Today, we’re witnessing a rapid cultural shift in professional kitchens. Entry-level cooks are demanding better hours and pay. Culinary students are graduating with kitchen and food business skills. Cooks are no longer interested in being just another pair of hands. They not only want to voice their opinions, but they also insist they be heard.ICE Creative-74As a former executive pastry chef, I’m not sure what to make of this shift. In the industry, many of us are asking: “Why can’t we find any decent cooks? Why won’t these cooks just be quiet and do the work? Why don’t they understand how amazing this restaurant is? Don’t they get it? I spent 10 years slaving away to get where I am. I learned from the best of the best, and all my experience is what makes me the pastry chef I am today. It came at the price of time and dedication, no matter what the sacrifices may have been. Aren’t they listening?”

In large part, the growing popularity of culinary school is part of this change. Over the last two decades, the cooks entering the field have been increasingly educated and eager to express their own creativity. So are we witnessing a planned rebellion of entry-level cooks against executive chefs that were raised in the “yes, chef” kitchen culture? Not exactly.

The majority of cooks currently entering the industry were born between 1980-1995, making them part of the millennial generation. They have extraordinary technical skills and multitask like machines—walking, talking, listening and texting simultaneously. They are not accustomed to the old school, “put your head down” way of working. They are focused on themselves first. And you know what? We can learn something from them. In the classrooms at ICE, I certainly have. It’s been a challenging but meaningful endeavor. I’ve learned to listen more and command a bit less.Culinary School Chef and StudentWhen I started out in kitchens, I remember I didn’t like being underpaid. I didn’t enjoy being told my thoughts and opinions didn’t matter. I didn’t want to work 12+ hours a day. But I did it because I felt like I didn’t have a choice, and I loved the work so much that I was willing to make sacrifices. So when the current generation says they won’t accept being underpaid, working long hours and feeling underappreciated every day, I get it. That “me first” mentality has its perks, but something has got to give. So who has to change? The employees or the employers?

My take on this culture divide is that the people who benefit most from changing are the chefs. Now, I’m not suggesting that chefs let their cooks run willy-nilly or let them talk back during dinner service. But I am suggesting that we all let go of the “yes, chef” culture. The best kitchens have always been a team effort, and it’s high time they became more collaborative—and that includes encouraging the creativity of every cook, even the one who just started last week.

No matter what you’re trying to accomplish—whether preparing a perfectly timed nine-course tasting menu or looking for a set of lost keys—there’s nothing like a fresh set of eyes on a situation. So if we let the before-service conversation evolve to include, “have you considered this, chef?” we all reap the benefits. In short, can we chefs stop thinking of ourselves as dictators and instead become coaches? From food trucks to tipping to composting, the industry is already changing in ways beyond our control. It’s time that chefs give cooks a moment to look up from their cutting boards and a chance to cut their teeth in a kitchen that welcomes open conversation.

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  1. Such a good and realistic article coming from an instructor. Thank you for understanding student that’s different Visona but share the same passion for cooking as you guys. You guys are our instructors and deserve respect but sometimes we just need to be heard instead of the “yes chef”

    Thank you for your help and inspiring me to become a better culinary student God bless you

  2. this will be the first time i read about this the “yes chef” of a culture. thanks for the brilliant and informative article.

  3. Stephanie Feldman

    As a recent graduate of Culinary school (3 years ago – ICE in fact), I’ve risen pretty quickly and am starting as Pastry Chef tomorrow in a new job. While I own my talent and always believed myself to be better then given credit (sometimes) it would NEVER have crossed my mind to deny my superiors the respect they deserve by acknowledging their title and their rule in their kitchen.

    It’s not an issue of how much education or talent you have that says you don’t need to respond to your boss with that respect.

    A Yale business graduate has a boss, a teacher has a boss – unless you’re president of a company – you have a boss or shareholders or business partners that you report to.

    Saying “Yes, Chef” or “Oui Chef” is an acknowledgement that you’ve heard your instructions, you understand them, and you know how to proceed with the task you’ve been assigned.

  4. Thanks for your comment Stephanie – it’s always great to hear various perspectives from experienced industry professionals, especially our ICE graduates! Congrats on the new gig and feel free to send us an update on what you’re up to!

  5. Hi Jenny,

    My name is Bianca and I’m a high school student, studying under the International Baccalaureate Diploma in Hong Kong. Reading your observation on the mentality shift of young cooks in the kitchen has been intriguing into how our society’s values begin to evolve.

    I’m currently writing my final research paper, heavily involved on the mentality of a chef and the dynamics between their staff in the workplace. I was wondering if you would be able to provide me deeper insight on several behaviours that chefs use to lead their cooks.

    I’m not sure if you’ll be able to see my gmail address, but if you would like to keep this private, I’m happy to keep this between emails! Thank you for taking the time to read this Jenny!

    Bianca Cheung

  6. “yes chef” the equivalent of “let me kiss your bottom sir”. a chef is like a boss exactly. and so what.

  7. Jeannie Stephenson

    Hello. I am also a former executive pastry chef from Chicago, turned instructor. I began teaching at Le Cordon Bleu Chicago, and am currently at my third school, located in north Carolina. I think the “yes chef” mentality still exists…..among the most serious culinary/pastry students. I do see it fleeing, but I can see that it’ll stick around for a bit longer, where it needs to.

  8. Chef Jenny you taught me the “Yes chef” a year ago and did enforce it.

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